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historian's office, only two cabinet appointments have ever been filibustered. no appointment has ever been successfully filibustered. john harwood, as we understand it, john, the white house still feels confident that chuck hagel will be confirmed but they also believe this tactic may work against the republicans later on. >> well, it's an interesting test, tamron, because, you know, the white house has adopted a posture of trying to call the republican's bluff on issue after kwusissue. the white house is counting on it working in the case of chuck hagel. the white house has been calling out republicans on this filibuster and you just hadden john mcsay a few minutes ago that we're going to get to a
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51-vote sequester. the white house has had success so far -- but the signs are positive that hagel ultimately will be concerned, the question is how long and is there any possibility that hagel in the meechbt decides to step out and take himself out of the consideration, at least that's not what the white house wants. >> big picture here, though, john, our first read team says this is a reminder for all future legislative fights and nomination battles. we'll see over the next four years, let's stop pretending this will change any time soon. meaning this particular strategy is something we will see perhaps in fights over universal's background checks for guns. even the prek for all children as all legislation as we move forward with this congress and
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this president as a dynamic could end up like we're seeing now. >> that's correct, tamron, but first of all we can't forget that democrats did defeat a nominee from -- for defense secretary before in john tower. but these two parties are in a state of more or less permanent war. the question is how do they get to the truth in this issue. with the wind at his back in terms of public opinion, the issues he struck out on various issues on the state of the union are popular. he just won his second skbraert majority over the earlier vote. now let me bring in our panel, radio talk show host, mike smerconish, rachel smoken and political correspondent dan clagman, dan, you have heard a
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lot about hagel, you heard john harwood say that we could be in a permanent state of war between the president and the republicans. >> i think what makes it so acute in this case is that it's happening in the context of foreign policy. here you have a defense secretary who's being filibustered, at the same time that there's a possibility filibuster as the cia director. i do think that ultimately, these political fights don't happen in a vacuum, all of the things that john harwood just said about the wind being at the president's back is going to end up meaning that he's going to get a deferment. >> and chuck hagel, if he's confirmed will attend a nato conference. and if not, panetta will have to step in there. >> and that's the pressure
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that's going to have to come to bear for the republicans, at the end of the day, this has real impact if the president doesn't have a confirmed secretary of defense. >> some of the republicans have tried to, i don't know if it's splitting hairs or if they're embarrassed by the use of the word filibuster, but they're attempting to describe this as something other than that. >> this is not a filibuster, i keep getting stopped by people out in the hall, oh, we're going to filibuster, who's going to filibuster. it's not a filibuster, all they have to do is have a 60-vote margin. >> so rachel, harry reed says it is a filibuster, jim inhoff says it is not. >> and that reflects the complicated politics going on right here. this is a troubled nomination for the white house, it has been from the start. there's no natural support out there for chuck hagel, he's a republican, but a lot of republicans feel he's a
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republican in name only. they're pushing back in light of the troubles he had during his confirmation hearing. at the same time they're vulnerable to a strategy where the white house and democrats really push back and say they're playing politics with our national security, they're putting a defense nominee in jeopardy, they're putting the defense of a nation in jp. the white house pushing back very hard on this strategy and that's a risk for republicans. >> how much does this have to do with the performance of chuck hagel? is this just a distrack someone when you have people say, well, you know, he had a horrible hearing and he stumbled through some of these answers. >> reporter: the hagual nomination shows that hearings do matter. again, this was a tough nomination from the start, even if he had had a fabulous hearing, there still would have been questions about benghazi, there still would have been
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questions about his financial disclosures. >> let me play what snasht lindsay graham has said about chuck hagel and he is willing to fight until the very end. let's play it please. >> you know that the debate on chuck hagel is not over, it has not been serious and we do not have the information we need and i am going to fight the idea of jamming somebody through. i'm going to hit you and keep hitting you, absolutely. you're not going to get away with not answering basic questions. >> that is a man that is not ready to give up, i'm going to hilt you and keep hitting you, it went from iran to israel, to benghazi, chuck hagel was not a part of the administration during benghazi. we have seen panetta and others testify. is this a legitimate point that this is pay back for the surge and that lindsay graham and senator john mccain have decided somehow in their minds they're
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doing this. >> i don't think it's pay back for the surge, i think this is pay back for a republican willing to serve in a democratic administration. no matter what you call this, filibuster or otherwise, i think it's at odds with the constitution, i think it'sed a odds with the device and consent language of the conversation. the language says that president obama gets to pick his team exempt in extraordinary circumstances. and the extraordinary circumstances are not met here. john mccain said that chuck hagel would be a great member of cabinet. he spoke of chuck hagel as a tremendous secretary of state. >> political betrayal is a worse sin than being a member of the opposing party, so you have john mccain in the hearing really going after chuck hagel, especially after iraq and the sunshine. but then you have a committee hearing and the new senator from texas, cruz, goes after chuck
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hagel where then john mccain defends him. it's baffling, it's like we're in a sort of upside down tonka toy world. >> we saw with his nomination something truly extraordinary which is the government of iran formally and publicly praising the nomination of a defense secretary. >> senator hagel is an honorable man, he has served his country and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> john mccain or roy blount are critical here if they don't participate in this filibuster, it seems as though he will move ahead. what's changed from when john mccain thought that chuck hagel was worthy of a nomination until now? >> a lot of it was iraq. >> so is it political pay back? >> it is like a lot of things, it's both political and personal. i think john mccain in kind of brushing back ted cruz was
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trying to sort of sort out the personal and the political. the problem for mccain is, if it looks like this is purely personal and that it's an attack, then it kind of diminishes his credibility. he's trying to keep the argument on substance, but there's no question for john mccain, it is also personal. these two men were friends, they were part of a band of brothers, they split on iraq, they split on the surge. it became very personal and sometimes it's very hard to sort out the personal and the political in washington these days. >> i know you're not a mind reader, but where do you believe john mccain will ultimately fall on this. especiallily when senator graham is saying i'm going to keep hitting and hitting and hitting. >> i think everybody hopes that john mccain will be an institutionalist, that is he is going to respect the prerogatives of the senate but that it's going to be consistent
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with the senate's obligation and that he won't vote for the fill buster. he'll certainly vote for hagel. >> you talk to people as i love to say all day long from around the country. what are folks saying that you've been talking to today? >> they're in danger about getting sucked into some of the sound bites about anti-semitism and so forth. the individual to whom chuck hagel used the words jewish lobby and aaron david miller who has served as secretary of states rs and ds. it's the old case of get beyond the headline, go deep on the substance, and when you get there, there's no there there. did he do well in the hearings? no, he didn't. he could have been stellar in those hearings, they're offended by the fact that he's willing to serve this president. >> and rachel, to a lot of
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points made here, this is a vietnam vet, you heard john mccain complement him when taken on by ted cruz here. they believe he will be confirmed and they believe that the republicans somehow will pay for this with public opinion. what do you think there? >> i think there's a little bit of a question at this point about what the end game is for republicans, what do they hope to achieve at this point? are they really trying to kill this nomination? because at this point it does look like we're going to move to a volt, there's a question about whether this will happen after this recess or whether it will happen tomorrow, it could happen quite soon, so is the goal to delay or to kill and at crunch time, they have to find out whether they'll diminish or accomplish. we're following developing news, olympic superstar oscar
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castorias is now officially charged with the murder of his girlfriend. we'll get a live report out of africa. and msnbc's mary carillo will join us. and msnbc's joe scarborough, republican and a conservative says is quote laced with racial overtones. we'll read some of that op-ed. and if you see random flash mobs singing a new song, it's called "break the chain" it's a global call to action. it was created to move people to end violence against women and girls. [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes? just begin with america's favorite soups. bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
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developing now, oscar castori is charged with murder. he's in a south african jail charged with murdering his girlfriend. castoria slipped down and hit his face -- a court hearing that had been set for this afternoon has now been postponed until tomorrow to give forensics experts more time to investigate. steinkamp's agent said that she was the kindest, sweetest human being on this earth and she will be sorely missed. what are investigators saying happened? >> reporter: well, they're not obliged to say anything under south african law, but they gave some detail today.
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they stopped short of confirms that it was he who was arrested here this morning. but they did almost everything else and it's been widely reported today that that was the case. he will spend the night in a police cell and then appear in court at 2:00 other than time, that's 2:00 a.m. where the charge geptsz him will be outlined and we have been told by authorities here that there will be an attempt to resist any application that's been made on his behalf for bail. that is normal for charges that are this serious. he was arrested early this morning at his home we're told, just behind the gates of this very secluded and secure neighborhood here on the outskirts. there were reports of a shooting, his model girlfriend was found there dead. she was shot several times, it's
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thought. and then he was arrested shortly afterwards. and then some details have been emerging. some of these details have stunned south africans. he's an incredible hero here in south africa. people will be watching tomorrow morning's court appearance with a great deal of interest. >> what can you tell me about the report that his girlfriend may have come in around 3:00 a.m. in the morning to surprise him, that's one of the reports that's out there, has that been confirmed? do we know any more about that? >> reporter: tamron, that hasn't been confirmed, that was initial speculation coming from reporters here at the scene. i spoke to many of them and no one really seems to be clear about where those reports actually came from and the police speaking this afternoon have been keen to say, we're not sure where those reports came from either. that may be the case, and
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there's almost speculation, reports here that he thought that it was an intruder, that wouldn't be surprising in a country that has one of the highest crime rates in the world. but very little extra detail that are coming out of those reports. >> thank you very much for your report. joining me now live with for, mary carillo with nbc sports. mary, i know you spent a lot of time with oscar, he was one of the most popular people in the world, on social media, people were fascinated, "gq" man of style, man of the future. his need for speed and featured him now. we don't know all of the details here, but tell us what you learned about this guy when you spent time with him. >> tamron, you're right, we were together at the olympic games, he was one of the best stories there, i mean here's a guy who was born without the lower part
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of his legs, who had been a paraolympian, who fought for the right to compete against able-bodied athletes. caroni james ended up winning, exchanged with oscar. it's the ultimate show of admiration and respect for swb somebody to change bibs, i got to spend almost a week with oscar and his coaches and his competitors in south africa before the london games, i was at that house where this horrible incident happened. it's a gated community. it's a beautiful home, oscar did keep guns there, and they were in his bedroom. i didn't see the guns, but i know he had them there, and he sleeps without legs, he sleeps without his prosthetics. there is a high crime rate as that last gentleman was talking about. it's a big fear in that country, but tamron, that this guy could be capable of such a thing is
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un -- it's unbelievable to me because, i mean oscar seemed for a 26-year-old to pulled together, so aware of his personal power. so cog ani personal power. so cog anzant that he was representing a whole group of people. the guy that i got to know in south africa, is so different from this god awful tragedy. it's a little bit hard for me still to comprehend it. >> absolutely, i feel the same way, i woke up and saw the news and just thinking about london and the energy around him, in "time" magazine, one of the world's 100 most influential people. and that's not just due to the fact that he was able to overcome the physical difficulties he faced. but it was because of his personality. he has indicated that authorities have charged him, and you have this other side of
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the story here, this lovely person, someone's child, someone's sister and friend was shot dead. but to your point about oscar's fear of security, there was at least one reporter who said they went up to take a photograph of him and he saw guns that he kept in the bedroom. and in a gatal community, he even had a bat and a cricket stick not very far away, concerned about his personal security here. but this is one of those tragedies that has come up too often, mary, in the sports world. we have seen domestic violence, we have seen allegations of it, we have seen tragedy, that reminds us that someone can be a hero but not know the entire story. >> to me, tamron, this was a little bit difference than the fall from grace of lance armstrong. n for a long time, people suspected he had been using performance-enhancing drugs, but
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oscar, he had this celestial kind of glow about him. just from the time i was able to spend with him, i hugged him after london as well. after the london games, he went on to win two more olympic medals at the paraolympic games. it's a little hard for me to understand. after a while, i did a story for rock center with brian williams on oscar, so we were with him for a while and we just started saying about him that -- and he was beautiful. i mean he was -- and he always had these beautiful girlfriends and we got to saying that three-quarters of him was perfect, and the last quarter was unbelievable. you know that, he had these blades for legs. and he was able to do so much good. he was -- this is a guy who wanted to, you know, help give prosthetics, make them affordable, get them out to people who were victims of land mines in south africa.
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it seemed to me that that's -- he was going along a very, very beautiful path with what he wanted to do with his life. so that's why this is incomprehensib incomprehensible. >> we'll see what the investigators say and meanwhile there, as a young woman who has now lost her life, and we need to know the circumstances that happened there. thank you very much, mary, i really appreciate it. it's always great to see you and even under these circumstances, we always appreciate your work, thank you, mary. for the first time, the gao says climate change poses a major financial risk to the government. this is the first time they have ever made such an announcement. do you think this report will ignite lawmakers to pass new climate change laws? it is our news nation gut check. and plus how actor will ferrell is getting involved in local politics? >> i'm here to talk about the next mayor of los angeles.
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now to the latest op-ed by -- after hurricane sandy, we saw the world as their utopia, loot evers ran wild in south brooklyn, there was no food, water or electricity, and if you wanted to walk several miles to get supplies, you better get back before dark or you might not get there at all. the mexican border today remains porous not only to people seeking jobs in the u.s., but to criminals who want to murder, rape and kidnapping. lone criminals, these are the perils we are sure to face not just maybe, it's not paranoia to
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buy a gun, it's survival. this morning msnbc's joe scarborough described the op-ed as being laced with racial overtones. >> the republican party, if they were smart, their looters today would condemn it. but they're not smart, they're scared, they're going to get hammered in future elections if they allow this clown to continue to lead them around by their nose. they're shameful, they need to be leaders. >> all of this comes as gun control advocates rally again in connecticut to encourage lawmakers there to enact stricter gun laws. joining me now, democratic strategist david goodfriend and rachel smoke. first up, wayne la pierre refers
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to hurricane sandy under hellish conditions. new york observer says silver lining sandy, still no murders after the superstorm. regarding border security, according to huffington post, 2010 report said that the u.s. mexican border is among the safe es in the u.s. so there's a few facts to put into this. rachel what are we to make at least as joe scarborough pointed out, will republicans come out and say that they agree or decision agree with this. this is a very highly charged peace with explosive language. he's making a very emotional appeal, we know what an emotional debate this is over guns, there are questions about whether there will be distancing by the republican party and that
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men republicans and democrats have major concerns about new gun laws, but how closely will they want to continue to align themselves with this kind of rhetoric, at a time when they're trying to put a different face on the republican party and we saw that gop response the other night by senator marco grorubio but really trying to put forth a more inclusive face on the republican party. and there are questions about how closely one would want to continue to stay aligned with the nra if this is the kind of rhetoric that wayne la pierre wants to put forward. >> it's 2:31 eastern time. this has been out at least 24 hours here in a few. and to my knowledge, no republicans have come out and said this is too much. >> yeah and i don't expect they l i do think we should look
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beyond the obvious here and try to understand what's really going on. wayne la pierre is a fairly comical if you ask me symbol for the nra. his rants seem like something glen beck might say. it really is borderline insanity, but let's remember, what does nra do? the nra collects enormous contributions from corporations that benefit from gun sales and it signs up individuals, usually as loss leaders, that the due don't pay for the entire budget, they really rely on those corporate contributions, but the membership allows them to say this is -- expand the ranks quickly of hard lined right wing people who will respond to this kind of language in order to show a growth in membership, so that the corporations will
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benefit from gun sales, we'll also have a louder voice, and i think that it's in anticipation of legislation and as wayne up here says in his own piece, judicial nominations. i think it's also important to point out that a lot of the buzz words that are used here were used by the far right wing against president obama himself. it is racially tinged of course. it's also talking about this president obama is going to lead our country into a debt ridden armageddon. where does that come from in the gun debate? he's playing into the extreme paranoia of the right wing itself. and i think it's actually a very dangerous tactic politically, because really what this does is it gives room for some new gun owners organization to come about and say, hey, we're the noncrazy gun owners of america. we're going to start our own separate association and i think that will dilute their power. >> that may be something in the
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future, but in the immediate life that we are in, with the fight for legislation, you got joe manchin who was on with us just the other day, he said i'm an nra member and he alluded to the fact that he did not agree with the nra leader ship. that the leadership was in name only. the bottom line is how much pressure will democrats put on republicans to come out and say what this man has written needs to be condemned, just as republicans have said to democrats, when incendiary language has come from the ranks of your part, david. >> those calls will come out more and more and more. for example, you could say to a republican from maine, hey, look, do you associate yourself with these paranoid rants against the president and against latinos and against people who live in brooklyn or not? yes or no, where do you stand? and the fact that la pierre came out with such extreme right wing insanity, insanity, in the name
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of the nra is going to make it harder for members of congress who would like to stay with him. >> thank you, david, thank you, raich rachel, we'll see what happens next. it's not just the establishment versus the tea party, but washington versus nonwashington republicans. nbc's senior political editor mark murray joins us next. but first, there is a lot going on today, here's some things we just thought you should know. president obama just wrapped up a visit in an early learning center in georgia today, making a push for an early learning education plan today. the president said the benefits of early education. >> hope is found in what works, this works. we know it works. you're looking for a good bang for your educational buck, this is it. right here. >> and some republicans have
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there's two splits within the republican party. one is karl rove versus security -- it also includes former rnc chairman haley barbour with the surge for growth. then there's washington versus nonwashington split. the example cited first by harry reid, with the governor arguing that the government should focus less on washington's budget battle and more on what's happening in the states. mark, i think you guys do an excellent job outlining the examples here. so the question is do you -- >> it actually remains to be seen. this is what happens to a party that is out of power, out of the white house. we saw the democrats grapple with this after john kerry lost in 2004.
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so 2005-2006 was all a battle of ideas, how do you position the party for success and the lessons and the fights in the republican party has now either help it going ahead to 2016 or actually could keep it where it currently is right now. but to answer your question, we're really not going to know for another year or two, this is just the beginning of those types of fights. >> congresswoman marsha blackburn was on with chuck todd this morning and he asked her, is the gop problem a message or messenger problem, here's what she said? >> i think it's a little bit of beth in that we have a good solid philosophical core, we have the right set of principles. sometimes how we communicate that message gets a little bit muddled and i think many times the messenger has attempted to
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maybe not look as new and as fresh. >> when you parsed her explanation. it did seem that they need a better rest sen jerry, rather than a message. eric cantor gave a speech last week where the bottom line was we need to have a softer tone, you ended up seeing marco rubio saying it was more about cosmetics and new policies. the question is whether that's the one that's going to lead them to victory in the 2014 midterms. >> developing news up next, i just got this information in. another set back for the carnival cruise ship that's being towed back to the u.s. we're now learning that the tow line broke. we'll get the latest on this
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developing now, the nightmare worsened for passengers on board a stranded carnival cruise ship, moments ago the tow line being used to pull the ship suddenly snapped. this is brand-new video of the ship that is disabled, even though the shoreline is within eye shot, these new delays are adding to the stress on the passengers who are describing the absolutely miserable conditions. >> we have to use the bathroom in the bags in the trash can, like the vanity trash can and then we have to take it into the hall and put it in these bigger bags. >> let's all just breathe it out. nbc's jay gray, listening to
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that woman this morning on the "today" show, physical reaction. i cannot imagine what those people are experiencing on that ship and they keep being delayed. they were supposed to be back by now. >> yeah, tamron, right. what else can really happen? the tow line breaks now? are you kidding me? since the fire in the engine on sunday, you just heard about some of the deplorable conditions, little food and waiting in line for hours to get a couple of slices of bread and some onions, it's just been a horrific scene being painted by a lot of the passengers on the phone who have been able to phone or text briefly at times. then you've got minute dreads of people at the port all waiting to see their loved ones, before this latest set back, what question learned was that it was going to now be midnight local time before the ship made it to the port. who knows now when it will get
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here, they're obviously anxious and frustrated and it's a situation that just continues to intensify on both sides. i traded text messages with a lady on the ship who's being told, yeah, it's going to be midnight and this was before the tow line snap, it's going to be midnight before we get back central time. and so they're trying to downplay expectations there. and now can you imagine, they're going to have to go back to all these people, over 4,000 and say, hey, we have got a little bit of a problem. we have had a little bit of a problem for a while. >> goodness, we're not laughing at the situation, but it's just so unimaginable. but people with kids are on that ship, elderly people, it's just -- it's just unbelievable. it's a nightmare, it really is. >> reporter: tamron, there are medical teams waiting for when the ship does arrive. there are stories of people who are going to have to be taken to
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the hospital if nothing else for precautionary measures. hundreds of people suffering from seasickness, the smells on that ship, you can imagine the swaying, without the ability to stabilize or steer, we have heard stories from passengers who say they fear for their live sleeping in life jackets every night because the boat was tilting back and forth so violently. it's just unimaginable. >> thank you, jay, hopefully those people will be back with their families here very soon and carnival will explain what happened there. a new report acknowledges for the first time, in fact the report came out just a couple of hours ago, climate change poses a major economic risk to the government. we'll talk about that, plus -- do you think the news will cause congress to pass new legislation? [ female announcer ] research suggests cell health
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welcome back, a first of its kind announcement from the u.s. government accountability office. climate change is costing the american government billions of dollars. the report from the gao warnings that extreme weather event poses a significant financial disaster alone ---in the state of the union address, president obama warned congress if they don't act on climate change, he will do what he can through executive action. here's carol caldavenport, than so much for your time.
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the gao, they're charged with investigating payments made by congress, so they're the investigative arm of congress to see where all the funds are going to the public. so here for the first time, that agency or that group indicating that climate change issues are related to the amount of money the government has to pay in these disasters. i don't think a lot of people see that as a oprah ah-ha moment, but it does intentionify the conversation on what to do here. >> it absolutely intensifies the conversation and we're starting to see what a lot of financial experts are saying, the cost of extreme weather events are climbing, the federal government is nation's primary insurer for disasters like floods and droughts and climate data show us that we're going to have more and more floods and droughts through the years and that means more money to insure homeowners, more and more money to insure crops and that costs taxpayers right at the moment when we're
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already facing a huge problem with a spiraling federal deficit. >> when you look at it, no matter where you stand on the issue of climate change, the bottom line is if you watch any newscast after these disasters, we hear and see the dollar amount needed to help after these massive storms, unprecedented storms, we know at least today senator barbara boxer and bernie sanders got together and they have announced a twist on the carbon tax, if you will. but our question we're asking our audience is do you think the report like we're discussing will ignite congress to pass new laws. do you believe so, coral? >> there's more of a spotlight on this issue than there has been in a long time. we're starting to see real price tags on the issue, we're starting to see economics get in on the picture. we're starting to see a greater ground swell, kind of a grass
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roots ground swell, there's expected to be the largest climate change rally outside the white house. this push is coming from all directions, it remains to be seen whether this is enough to get congress to act, however. congress is gridlocked, they have trouble acting even when the fires on their feet for something like the fiscal cliff. so despite all the increased pressure, it's still hard to imagine that we would see congress act on a big climate change bill this year. >> coral, thank you so much for your time, it was a great pleasure meeting you and having you on. thanks a lot. the news nation gut check, do you think it will ignite lawmakers to pass new climate change law? go to facebook.com/news nation to cast that vote. that does it for this issue of
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